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window guards - Cecile Aug 11, 2021

who pays for window guards and the installation

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.habitatmag.com/layout/set/amphtml/Publication-Content/Legal-Financial/2016/2016-June/Window-Guards

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And so naturally they are responsible to pick up the tab for getting them in the windows.

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Fee for Engineer company - Pooh Aug 07, 2021

I wanted to ask if it’s common that when you hire an engineer company to oversee, etc a project (like we hired them to oversee work to be done on the facade because there was a leak) would an engineer company get 10% of the whole project?

We’re also hiring them for our window project.

Getting info like this from our Board is hard.

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We pay our engineers either of two ways most all the time.
We pay at an hourly rate, bills to be submitted as the project proceeds.
Or we get a fixed total quote upfront for what the whole job will be.
I'd say the first arrangement is the more common one.

I'd resist the % arrangement as this incentivizes the engineer to be happier as the size of the job grows.

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Conflict of interest - Pooh Jul 22, 2021

Can someone let me know if their building abides with this 2017 rule?

https://www.wasserruss.com/new-conflict-of-interest-rules-ny-condo-co-op-boards/

Our building this year had board members sign something but that’s it.

What about shareholders? Do they need to know about this and this is communicated to them regarding board members signing a document and also listing contracts, etc and maybe that is distributed to the shareholders?

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Also we have a sponsor on the board which makes it 7 and he rents and sells his units. Isn’t that a conflict of interest?

Also what about our management company they have a real estate company on the side and would communicate that to shareholders..isn’t that a conflict of interest or does the rule just apply to board members?

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Barred from Annual Shareholder Mtg - CoopBoardInfoSeeker Jul 15, 2021

Hi,
Our coop board is not allowing any shareholders who are currently trying to sell their unit to the annual shareholders' meeting. This was emailed to us last year then rescinded at the last minute. In the new house rules, there is now a rule stating this. Is this allowed under regular articles of incorporations? This is a NYC coop, for reference.

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This is strange and what if the sale doesn’t go through and/or you changed your mind? They also have to send you the minutes of the Annual meeting afterwards because you’re still the owner/shareholder . What are they trying to hide? You should contact your management company and your co-op attorney. Also contact the attorney general’s office. If someone wants to buy a unit don’t they get to see the minutes of meetings if they want to do so they can really see the state of the building? How long have these board members been on the board? What would they do if you show up? Call the cops? This doesn’t sound right.

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What the??
This has to be illegal. All shareholders are automatically entitled to attend the annual shareholder's meeting. The Board cannot change NYS corporate law.
Talk to your coop attorney for their ruling on this and report back to us here.

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It sounds to me like a misguided attempt to prevent someone who is contemplating or actively looking to sell their apartment from voting in their own interest instead of what is best for the co-op.

For example, suppose the board is going to propose a large maintenance increase for all the good and valid reasons. The thought is that anyone looking to sell their apartment will vote against the increase because it will hurt their sales potential even if the increase is badly needed, and because they most likely won't be affected by it.

Barring these shareholders from the meeting is still illegal and should be challenged in every way possible.

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Annual Shareholder Meeting inclusiveness and access - slm Jul 14, 2021

The purpose of this correspondence is to request how to provide an opportunity for all co-op shareholders to be included in the annual meeting.
The problem is many of our shareholders do not have access to technology nor the skills and therefore will not be able to participate in the voting process.
The meeting is virtual and reasonable accommodations have not been made to resolve this situation.
Most importantly, I would like to know if there is any liability for the cooperative not to provide accessibility for its shareholders.
If you have encountered a similar situation please share how it was resolved.

Thank you.

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We just had our virtual zoom annual meeting .

So your management company should supply all the shareholders with the zoom info and/or dial in number to participate. They can also slip that info under shareholders doors. If anyone doesn’t have a computer or know how to work Zoom they can just call in and listen.

The Zoom will be recorded and notes/mini will be sent out a few days afterwards.

Also what about having shareholders who know how to work zoom have maybe a few in their apartment if they want to view it too but calling in is good too without viewing.

Regarding voting… have all shareholders send their bios to the management company if they want to run and give a deadline and no one will be nominated the day of. Have all proxies sent to the management company via email or fax or there can be a box in the basement near the super (locked) and your managing agent comes and collects those. So your management company has multiple ways of getting proxies.


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We accommodated everyone in our annual meeting via Zoom last month in the following way:

(1) Zoom has an option to dial in by phone, which allows both listening and talking during the meeting. This avoids any use of technology beyond a simple telephone, if that's all the shareholder is comfortable with.

(2) We required that all ballots be submitted in advance, no later than 30 minutes before the start of the meeting. To assist people, we put together a Voter Guide with short write-ups by each candidate. The guide and all the meeting materials were sent to all shareholders both by email and by regular mail - again ensuring that even low-tech residents had access to everything.

(3) Ballots could be submitted by email to our managing agent, either scanned or photographed. The managing agent also came by the building one day before the meeting to pick up paper ballots from those who wanted to do it that way.

All of this went over well with the shareholders. Everyone was fully aware of what was going on, and could vote and participate in a convenient manner, regardless of their technical skills.

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Eviction notice/letter - Pooh Jul 13, 2021

I wanted to ask your thoughts on this…
A few years ago our co-op attorney sent a letter basically an eviction notice to one of our tenants. The co-op owned a few apartments. The letter was not signed by the attorney and instead he listed himself as DIrector of the co-op. The tenants showed it to other residents/shareholders and we were upset and embarrassed. The couple was expecting a baby -7 months pregnant. Also they were the grandchild of one of our board of directors. He was on the board for quite awhile. He was so upset. It didn’t work of course but the it was mean and not necessary. It was done behind the board member’s back. All they had to do was ask him to sign the lease or ask the board member if his grandson was renewing the lease. The management company was shocked when they found out it was his grandson. The young couple forgot to sign the lease. I also thought it was so inappropriate and unethical the way the attorney basically went around it. It was a white piece of paper and not his law firm affiliated to it to really make it official. I think it was a scare tactic and totally unnecessary.

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You need to more carefully define what is going on, and what you want from us?
What do you mean by a tenant? Does the Coop own apartments that are rented out? Sounds like the attorney acted out of turn. Nothing like this should be done without the board pres and the rest of the board controlling what is happening.

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I completely agree with Grant. This requires a huge dose of specificity and clarity.

If this happened "a few years ago", why are you bringing it up now?

Were the young couple shareholders or renters? I'm assuming they were renters if they had to renew their lease. Who owns the apartment they occupy?

One last question. If this happened a few years ago and the young couple's board-member grandfather was shocked, the managing agent was shocked, and the other shareholders were shocked, why is the director/attorney still on the board?

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I just wanted your opinion on this situation — meaning the way the attorney acted.

He’s still our attorney and I don’t like the way he operates. The President of the board and other board members knew at the time but to me it was wrong and mean and if the tenant who was pregnant would of been stressed out and something would of happened to her that would of been a big problem for us. All they needed to do was ask the tenants and/or grandfather on the board if they were going to renew.

I feel a lot of times co-op boards and attorneys don’t think things thru and act on emotion. They should be problem solvers and not always looking to get someone.

It’s interesting when someone wants to run for the board they’re all nice and then when they’re on then it’s a power kick!!!

At my particular co—op it’s more who doesn’t like who which is not how to run a business.

Yes the co-op owned a few apartments that we rented out.

This is the same attorney who told me that if I didn’t sign the code of conduct then I couldn’t be on the board and it was the night I got in. I should of also reviewed the document and given my feedback and also considering the President of the board already reported someone to the attorney.

My job doesn’t act like this!


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No Shareholder Meeting in Two Years - J Jul 08, 2021

What steps should a shareholder take when there has been no shareholders meeting in two years? We moved into a co-op in 2019 and there has been no annual shareholders meeting or any kind of meeting. No communication at all from the board or management.

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You should email the Board and your management company. It’s probably in your by-laws that you should have one each year and even with COVID they can do it virtual with Zoom.

I’m assuming the President of the board or someone on the board sends out emails on occasion.

Also what about your financial report? Have you received those though? They need to speak on the report and also shareholders should be able to ask questions.

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Nobody ever responds to my emails. Yes i did receive the financial report but it was never spoke about. I cant stand this management company. Seems very shady. Got a feeling somebody on the board has to be getting a kickback because this company is terrible. Our security system keeps failing and these morons have the parking lot and entrances to the building on the same system so now the parking is always open and the front gate is open. None of the shareholders seem to care.

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Look at your by laws . It has to state that you have one each year. What about an election ? You can call a special meeting/election. Contact the President of your management company either by phone or send them an email. Also knock on the President’s door of your co-op about this. Contact the security system company as to why it keeps failing? I don’t understand why co-op’s have email addresses and tell shareholders to send any concerns but they don’t answer.

You might have to also run for the board and make changes.

Is the board the same people or shareholders join once in awhile? Same people on the board for a long time to me is bad. No new ideas.

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Is your board of directors providing a conflict of interest report listing a kickback from the managing agent? Or a report with no conflicts of interest? Or just ignoring this requirement altogether (if so, you can add it to your list of things to harass them about).

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/BSC/727

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THREATS AND ATTACK: WHEN BOARD MEMBERS FACE DANGER AND VIOLENCE - Board of Director Jul 06, 2021

What can a HDFC/Co-op do to safeguard the Board of Directors from threats and assaults of shareholders who are enraged not because of something the individual did but because of something the co-op/board did but assaulted the Board Member for carrying out their elected duties. The surveillance video shows/confirms that the attack was unprovoked, and the blow was sustained while the Board Member had her back towards the male shareholder.

The shareholder assaulted a Board Member with bodily harm where the member was knocked unconscious, broken nose, black eyes, dizziness, surgery on nose, delay in speech and anxiety and traumas. Police issued a warrant for arrest of the shareholder(perpetrator) for a felony 1st-degree assault charge; however, he is still at large.

Can the Co-op have rules/protocols/procedures in place such as offer $2000 in reward money for information leading to the arrest and indictment of a shareholders who assaults a Board Member who was performing their elected duties and the termination of the perpetrator's proprietary lease?

What can the Co-op do to ensure that its elected official are protected from violet acts while performing their elected duties?

Also, is the Co-op liable because this shareholder who assaulted the Board Member had been a nuisance 100 days prior to the assault? How should the Board Member be compensated for their pain and suffering, loss of wages and the bodily injures?

Any assistance relating to this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Hi BoD Member - Just a general comment. The situations you describe and the answers you are seeking are way beyond what anyone on this list would want to respond to. It sounds like law enforcement is already involved and you need to let them do what they're supposed to.

I am not familiar with the HDFC governance structure and I'm assuming your co-op has an attorney of record. At the very least I feel your board needs to consult with the co-op's attorney for the answers to the other questions and issues you raise. I'm surprised this hasn't already been done, but if you're asking on here I take it your attorney has not been notified or become involved.

What you should *not* do is take matters into your own hands, offer rewards, take punitive action against the perpetrator shareholder, etc. At best you'll complicate the legal process for dealing with the shareholder, and at worst you'll cause the situation to escalate into something very ugly.

I wish you success in dealing with these problems, but you should not be looking for free advice because it will only be worth what you pay for it. Get professionals involve if you haven't already done so, for everyone's sake.

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Why haven't the police been called? You have it on tape the board member was hospitalized..The person who assaulted this shareholder/board member should have been arrested. Also you need an order of protection on this person and have a lawyer proceed to remove this person permanently from the building.
This is common sense 101. Best of Luck

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Appointed director? - Pooh Jul 05, 2021

Is it common practice that a co-op attorney is appointed as a director/board of director too?

Wouldn’t that be a conflict?

Also is it appropriate for the attorney to use the director title when it works for him?

One time he sent a letter to someone in our building and didn’t sign it besides listing himself as the director of co-op and not attorney..,,why if he’s our attorney?

I know the board members were OK with this but to me its odd.

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I don't like the idea of the co-op's attorney of record being on the Board of Directors. If this person is also a shareholder, there's an obvious conflict of interest. How do you plan to move forward with legal action against this shareholder if a problem arises? And even if the attorney/director is not a shareholder, it's still problematic. They'd need to recuse themselves from voting on whether to engage their services. Otherwise, there's a business conflict of interest. "Do we need to replace light bulbs that burn out? Better call the co-op's attorney for a consultation!"

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Have you ever heard of this before though?

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He’s a non voting board member but I still think it’s odd and to me inappropriate.

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I fully agree with Carl from my own experience. For a number of years, one of our board members was also the co-op's attorney of record. This was done in the guise of "saving the co-op money".

On occasion, this caused serious disagreements between he and I due to his conflict of interest. As a board member he had a fiduciary responsibility to the Co-op Corp and its shareholders. But as the co-op's "attorney" he would render legal opinions that favored his side of a disagreement, even when demonstrably wrong. It was uncomfortable and messy.

I'm not sure I understand the significance of being a "non-voting board member". If he can't vote, what is he purpose on the board?

Your co-op's attorney should be completely independent of any connections to the Co-op. He should not be a board member voting or otherwise, he should not be a shareholder, he should not have any family relationship to a shareholder, nothing.

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It’s so bizarre because I grew up in a house and work in NYC and just can’t believe all the made up rules/situations. It’s all so loosey goosey. You have people on a board who know nothing about a building and especially the structure and they make decisions.

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A common practice for practicality. He can sign documents for convenience sake when sending them on a round trip to the Board is a waste of time and energy.

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I still don’t like that. It’s our home and we need to control it and the President or VP should sign documents.

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Yes, it's almost like real life! In business you think every board director knows all about structures or anything else about running a company? That's why it's useful to have an engineer on the board if possible to bring some experience to the table.

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Unfortunately what I see is that they don’t know anything and think they do and make expensive mistakes.

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Legal tools for handling sponsor/property management problems? - Blocked in the Bronx Jun 28, 2021

My coop experience has unfortunately been horrible.

Our sponsor has maintained control over the building for decades. She has full influence over the property manager, and our board is packed with her picks. She and the property manager illegally cancelled the building election three years ago, and we haven't had one since. Their excuse is quarantine.

Among other issues, I was assaulted by one of her tenants - who has since moved out. No security camera was installed in the area where the attack occurred (and the board has refused to install one since.)

I have no doubt this individual has a record, and would like to at least present that information as proof the sponsor DOES NOT do due diligence re: who she rents to. Unfortunately, I'm disabled and on a strict budget. Are there ANY tools or contacts that would be of use to me? Thanks!

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Hello

So sorry.

I actually called the NY State Attorney General office about a situation in my co-op and was able to speak to someone that was so helpful. His name was George. 1-800-771-7755. I think it’s #3 to speak to someone so listen to each section. They will give you numbers and info on who and what depts to call but start here first and tell them your situation.

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