It IS possible for NYC/NYS law to supersede by laws. The horrible Roommate law is an example of this for co-ops.

I would ask your CEO to cite which law has changed that now prevents you from recovering legal fees as your by laws state.

If he’s telling the truth, he should be able to explain what has now changed.

If he can’t and/or won’t explain, then he’s probably full of it.

The "man of a resident"? It's unclear who you think the person was...

call NYPD

I’m not an attorney so remember what you paid for my advice.

If you try to sublet you will be sued and you will lose. That’s because it’s in your bylaws. 2 wrongs don’t make it right.

Even if you “know” that others are subletting, can you prove it? That’s what it comes down to. Not always easy to do.

Don’t listen to mgt when they tell you to lower the price. They are just trying to get rid of you. They have no idea why your applicants were rejected.

You need to be proactive in the selling process.

Find out from the Board what are the criteria for buyers (minimum income and other qualifications). Then talk to your broker.

Is your broker aware of all criteria? If there are additional monthly charges for air conditioners and parking, does your broker know them?

I’ve met many unprepared brokers who did not know these things. Your broker may know them and is just lazy and not doing their job. There are lazy brokers out there.

Also, is your apartment in good condition? Are there any undesirable factors involved with your co-op (ongoing assessments) that could be hindering your ability to sell?

If so, that could be a reason why mgt says to lower your price.

But remember that when a buyer is rejected, mgt is not told why. No one is told. We would just tell mgt that “the application is rejected. Please notify the buyer.”

My experience is that applicants are rejected for financial reasons only. Focus on that aspect.

I would ignore the other apartments that may or may not be subletting. Concentrate on your situation and make sure your broker is doing everything possible to sell your apartment.

Good luck.

Marty please reread what I wrote. I understand you think you know everything. Sometimes your advise is OK But I do know for a fact they are subletting to someone. I also would like to hear from people who as had this experience. Thank you Marty

I’m surprised that there is no mention of the stance of the Board on pursuing illegal sublets. I have served on Boards and my experience has been that the Board sets the tone on pursuing illegal sublets and directs the Managing Agent to investigate and
pursue them. When a shareholder complained to the Board IN WRITING about illegal sublets, the Board directed the Agent to investigate. And this led to verification and action. I agree that you won’t win in court. And you can’t force the Board to change its policy. But you can demand that the Board take action to enforce current policy. But if it was never bad I was more interested in selling, I wouldn’t want to antagonize the Board and be pragmatic and lower the price.

I am surprised at how judgemental some people are becoming.

I thought this was a forum for people sharing information. if you don't agree with the responses/advice to your inquiries don't criticize see an attorney.

An article on this site "Waivers and Selective Enforcement" addresses your situation..

https://www.habitatmag.com/Publication-Content/Board-Operations/2011/2011-May/Waiver-and-Selective-Enforcement

Look at Teman.com/GateGuard . It works with your cellphone and we never share your data. We're live across every boro in NYC, from walkups to luxury condos and office buildings. It can buzz an app on a smartphone or tablet or call a phone or land-line.

I'm not an attorney so keep in mind the price to paid to hear this.

You say that you were told that inspection is required. The first thing I thought of is what did YOUR attorney have to say about all this? I assume he knew about these inspections after you found out about them.

If the Board's attorney said that you had to provide the information unasked, my first order of business would be to ask MY attorney if it's true and what happens next.

I think you need to speak to your attorney to find out if:
1) Everything you've been told is true
2) Do you have any legal grounds to hold the Board and managing agent responsible?

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Thanks. The buyers have returned to the table with the understanding that I have very little time to resolve the situation, so my attorney (who is not a litigator) is trying to negotiate with the building's attorney. She has never seen anything like this. Most knowledgeable people (supers, board members in and out of my building) with knowledge of, but no control over, the "violation" say it's a non issue and the board and agency should just approve the sale. In addition to submitting photos and history, I pulled up all codes related to the situation and it looks like I'm 100% in compliance. My lawyer has submitted this as further support. Unfortunately, even though the board president agrees it seems "silly" she defers to the building attorney. The building attorney wants to add additional protections for fear of a lawsuit from the buyer (despite the fact that they make clear the onus is on the buyer). It seems like they created rules without knowing the law and empowered a super who is power hungry and also ignorant of the codes. Instead of backing down, they are creating hoops I need to jump through. So, I'd appreciate any and all advice in the event that this deal does fall through.

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Violations cited laundry equipment installed without
a permit, and gas lines not tested and certified by DOB,
An ECB hearing is a month away and dryers are shut down.
This was just a random inspection by FDNY and DOB.

In generic terms, it is unlikely that ANY laundry professional would willingly and intentionally install machinery that would jeopardize the safety of the residents. laws such as, the necessity of sprinklers, in laundry rooms have been on the books for decades. More recently, we are seeing DOB exercise these regulations. Most importantly, contact a professional for assistance. Automatic Industries has been in business for close to 50 years. You are welcome to contact us with questions.
Denise Savino-Erichsen, President
Automatic Industries
www.automaticindustries.com
1-800-THE-WASH

But even if the vendor UNINTENTIONALLY violated DOB regulations, can they be liable for damages or compensation
to the coop? Would their insurance pay it?

I’m not a lawyer, so remember what you paid for my advice.

It seems that if the vendor caused the situation - unintentionally or not - then they are liable. Hopefully they have insurance that you can file a claim against.

I believe that they have insurance. But this might not be resolved quickly, and 190 households are scrambling to use alternate neighborhood laundry services.

Could you explain how one receives their abatement directly from NYC? Are you certain it is the STAR abatement? From my understanding the STAR abatement is sent directly to the Managing Agent who then either disperse the money to the owner OR some Coops keep the abatement thus avoiding a maintenance increase. There is a similar question going on about how to obtain lost abatement in which a commenter recommended this link: https://cooperator.com/article/star-on-the-rise/full This is a very good article, explains much and includes the following: "When you live in a co-op, the money doesn’t go directly to the unit owner, but to the building itself. It’s then up to the management company or building administration to disburse the money to the proper parties.... the abatement is paid in a lump sum directly to the building"

I believe you are referring to information on the below link from the DOF website.

I believe this only applies to homeowners not co-op's and condo's

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/benefits/landlords-star.page

I would like to correct my previous response.

I was informed by the DOF "If you currently receive the Basic or Enhanced STAR exemption, you will continue to receive it, but you can choose to register for the STAR credit to receive a check instead"

I was told that the amount of the Star credit will increase in the future but the value of the exemption will not. No further explanation as to why. I also asked if the co-op abatement was included in the lump sum check and was told “No, the check is only for the STAR credit, which is issued by New York State”.
I hope this helps you..

Ask management for the form, this time take a copy for your records. Also fill out the NYC abatement form on line. They have 4 different types. I believe it's called the "Star Program" You have to fill this form out every 2 yrs. also keep a copy on file. Good Luck

I agree with PC’s advice, but I think that the STAR rebate is administered by NYS. I’m out of state now so the info is not in front of me.

You can apply for STAR online. The 4 NYC abatements are Senior Citizen, Real Estate, Veterans, and Disability.

Good luck!

Hope this site helps you.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/benefits/landlords-star.page

it's your job to manage this, not your managing agent's. your board should be able to help keep you informed but ultimately you should be doing this for yourself.

I don’t believe the writer’s question was answered. He lost 2 years of the abatement and how does he reclaim it? He wrote “I’m considering small claims court.” Indicates he is seeking the abatement he is entitled to.
1) Would the writer succeed if they were to go to small claims court?
2) What recourses does the writer have to reclaim their lost abatement?
3) When a person purchases their first coop, how and who is responsible to advise the new coop owner of the abatement paperwork?
The answer: “it's your job to manage this, not your managing agent's … you should be doing this for yourself” is just too severe and judgmental and unhelpful, please read on:
When I purchased my first and only coop, I was never informed of the Abatement by NYS, NYC, at the closing or by the Management or my lawyer. Four years later in a brief talk with a neighbor I learned about the abatement.
It was the Management Company who gave me the paperwork (the Mgmt Company is owned by the Sponsor, who is also the Board’s Vice-President and whose employee is the Board Secretary) the aforementioned have been controlling an entrenched board and running this coop for 15+ years, so with those facts now known, the Management, Sponsor, Vice-President and Secretary MUST know about the abatement paperwork.
4) Since I did receive the paperwork from the Management, would you agree they are at fault? They did say in an email “there is nothing they can do about it now”.
5) If, yes, Management is responsible, how do I proceed, do I go to small claims court or do I try to make a claim on their ‘error and omissions’ policy and how would I do that?
6) Would I be entitled to interest on the abatement should I proceed with small claims court?
Thank you for your assistance.

According to the article on the below link, it seems like it is the responsibility of the manager and board to notify and keep shareholders appraised of Star benefits and Co-op abatement but basically your responsibility as well.

I had a similar situation and contacted the D.O.F. via email. once I had all documentation and my concerns were still not being addressed by management, I contacted my councilman. I was given a direct telephone number to D.O.F. who stepped in and helped resolve the issue.

sounds like it is your word against theirs.

You should have a consultation with an attorney on what is your best action on this matter.


https://cooperator.com/article/star-on-the-rise/full

I don't see how you can collect from DOF for past 2 years when they never received the proper documentation from your management company or you never attempted to contact them, however there might be others in your community who have the same situation. you might be able to help them as well as yourself and also point out your management company and board were derelict in their responsibilities to act in the best interest of the co-op and its shareholders.

Regarding the comment: "...proper documentation from your management company or you never attempted to contact them"
What must be heard is: "First Time Coop Owner" when you are a First Time Coop Owner a person cannot inquire about Abatements when they do not know such exists in the first place. In my coop there is no 'community' solidarity, which is another problem. It is the Managing Agent who receives the abatement in a lump sum, right? It is the Managing Agent who is aware of New Owners, seems to be the Managing Agent should be responsible for reimbursing New Owners either from their "error and omissions" insurance or out of their management fee.

why not respond to the question without being judgemental towards other's comments...