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How one coop is handling it: - sally Aug 04, 2009


This was handed out to all residents.. it is a good example.

Date: 29 July 2009

Bedbug Emergency

As you may have heard, we have a number of apartments with bedbugs. Please read this carefully so
you know what is going on. We need everyone’s help if we are going to eradicate this problem.

History
From 2006 through 2008 there were three incidents in the building, all professionally treated. We had
two incidents earlier in the year, and now have over fifteen apartments reporting bedbugs, most in the
last few weeks. The bedbugs appear to have spread vertically and horizontally.

What Are Bedbugs?
Bedbugs are small brown insects that typically bite during the night, leaving small itchy red welts.
They do not pass disease, and there is no danger from the bites, although they are annoying. A few
people are insensitive to the bites, and may not notice them at all. Here are pictures of a bedbug, and
the bites.
Bedbugs can be hard to treat, because they travel from apartment to apartment in the walls., and by
latching on to people’s clothing.
What Are We Doing About It?
We have hired specialists to come in and test for the presence of bedbugs, and treat those apartments
that have them. We are closely watching how this spreads through the building. We may ask to inspect
some non-infested apartments if it looks like they are at risk. If you want to know the latest on the
bedbug problem in the building, call Aramis or any Board member – their contact information is at the
end of this letter.
What Should You Do if You Think You Have Bedbugs? Cal; the super.
He will schedule an inspection of your apartment, and treatment if it needs it. Do not delay – bedbugs
multiply rapidly, so any delay makes the problem worse for you and your neighbors.

How is the Inspection Done?
The inspection company brings in a dog that sniffs for the bedbugs. This takes just a few minutes. If
you are allergic to, or afraid of dogs, let Aramis know, and he will work out a way to get your
inspection done.

How is the Treatment Done?
The treatment companies use either steam or freezing, plus a variety of powders and sprays to kill
bedbugs in the walls. They seal your mattresses and boxsprings in tight covers that you leave on for at
least a year. The chemicals dissipate completely a couple hours after the treatment, so there is nothing
left in your apartment that can harm you, your children, your pets, or your plants. There is a follow-up
treatment two weeks afterward.

You must wash all your clothing – yes all of it – in hot water and a hot dryer, or send it out for dry
cleaning.
As treatment covers your entire apartment, it helps a lot if you can de-clutter the apartment
beforehand. The Super will send you detailed instructions when he schedules your apartment for
treatment.
What Does It Cost?
Nothing. The co-op pays for all inspections and treatments.
How Do You Treat the Bites?
Normally, the bites itch for about a week, and gradually go away. Cortisone cream can reduce the
itching. Some people report a mild allergic reaction, with puffiness or swelling of the skin around the
bites, and anti-allergy medicines, such as Benadryl, can help with this. Of course, check with your
doctor first, especially if you are thinking about medicines for your children.
Can You Treat Your Apartment Yourself?
There are products on the market that claim to be effective, but we urge you to report any bedbugs to
the Super and let the building do the inspection and treatment. Bedbugs travel from apartment to
apartment. If you use a treatment that is not effective, you may end up making your problem worse,
and the building’s problem worse as well.

What Else Do You Need to Know?
If you suspect bedbugs in your apartment, take care not to spread the problem to your neighbors.
Here’s how:
• If you need to remove any furniture or clothing from your apartment, call the Super and he
and our staff will help you do it.

• Do not put any furniture or clothing out in the hallway.

• Anything you remove from your apartment, such as trash, old clothing, papers, etc., must
be in tightly sealed bags.

• Call the super who will supply you with heavy-duty clear plastic bags to encase anything
you need to remove from your apartment.

• Also use the bags to encase any clothing you cannot wash before your apartment is treated,
and use fresh clean bags to encase clothing you have washed.

• Do not reuse the bags for anything! Once you have used the bags, let the Super know, and the
building staff will remove the bags from your apartment.

• If you are returning from a trip, check your luggage for hitchikers.

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That dog who sniffs for bed bugs in my opinon is a sham.
the dog is trained to smell blood residue which is blood, what bedbugs need. But a women who has a her period and could leak on her mattressor clothes, the dog could pick that sense up and mistake it for bed bugs. Also bed bugs do have a scent that these dogs pick up, so if the apt adjacent to yours has bed bugs and the dog comes into your apt the dog can pick up the scent of the bed bugs and bark or point or do what ever it is they do and FALSELY imply that you also have bed bugs. I know this because I work as a Resident Manager, and i have seen this scam in action. Use a professional exterminator such as CORBETT who is wonderful and is a hell of alot cheaper then the dog scam.

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do NOT use Corbett - they are spamming this website.

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How do you fight this scourge when the infested residents don't care and use the communal laundry room and the board will not intervene.

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Fios - Board Help Aug 01, 2009


Interested about hearing about your installation.

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Sidewalks - Board Help Aug 01, 2009


Has anyone recently replaced their sidewalk? If you had a positiver experience, can you please identify the company and your address.

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We are just finishing with some sidewalk repairs which came about as a result of some violations. We are using the same company that also recently refurbished our parking area - City & County Paving Corp (www.cityandcountypaving.com).

They did great work for us the first time and they are doing great work for us once again.

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try A.P.A. Restoration Corp.

www.aparestoration.com
718 545 7510

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We used Jerrick. Nice job.

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Bulbs - Board Help Aug 01, 2009


Has anyone installed LED bulbs in their building. If so, please share your experience.

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Our building started to use them in certain areas, they work great and I hope to change the others when they are available.

Call Manhattan Bulbs (646) 996-7928 and ask for Andrew

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We started to but never finished. They are great, they don't give off heat and they are extremely energy efficient. You can call Aaron at 866-532-1666 to set you up with the proper product.

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Laundry Rooms - Board Help Aug 01, 2009


Has anyone recently renovated their laundry room. What type of machines did you use and what company did the work? Not interested in any negative comments about laundry Co.'s

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Maytag machines, Hercules Laundry Company

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WARNING!! Stay away from COINMACH!!!

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Our experience was mixed for our 111 unit co-op. We used Service Directions for our two rooms which they renovated. We pay approximately $1,650 per month for 6 small and 3 large washers (Maytag), and 12 gas dryers. We get the income from the card machines (legacy of former 80/20 considerations). We are at a loss position thus far with the lease expense exceeding the income (not even adding in the utility costs).

We very much liked how they upgraded the rooms. Service has been good and the dryers are great too (our porters clean the rooms daily). Shareholders are having difficulty adjusting to the HE machines (they recycle water) and need HE detergent. I have noticed that without a load that has bleach (Clorox) added recently, the water in the recycling tank can get 'funky'. So I do whites first. The residents complain that they don't clean as well as the former machines. They don't come with a pre-wash either (it says pre-wash on the machines however the machines go directly to the wash cycle). So now, some go down the street to a lower priced shop. We were also forced to add sprinklers to the rooms too.

I hope this helps and good luck!

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The Maytag small washers are front loaders w/o a see through portal. Some shareholders didn't like this as they wanted to "see" the machine work.

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I agree we had problems with coinmach and now use Hercules, they revamped our laundry room using a lot of imagination. The problem (for many)is the card system. Many do not have credit cards or credit and some just do not like the card system and they go to the local laundromat instead.

I love the card system but have to be very careful not to loose the card but that goes for Metro cards!

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you need a card machine inthe laundry room that takes cash. it is very weird that herculeus supplies one that only takes credit cards. here is how it works: you put in cash: out comes a laundry card with that amount of credit on the card (it is not a credit card)

make SURE the laundry company you choose renovates the room and supplies tables chairs etc and pays for it.

also make sure to get the most energy efficient machines possible - sideloaders NOT top loaders.

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Habitat Magazine has a good article about negotiating a new contract with your laundry company (do a search on its website). To get or keep your account, a company will typically redo your laundry room & put in new machines, but it's important to have oversight of those plans.

Our revamped laundry room wound up with stacked machines that are too high for many to reach into. The machines we had before were stacked also, but a better design. We also lost our clothesline for hanging up things, and all the lint flies out of the dryers onto our pavement. There's gotta be a better way!

Good luck!

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storage area - access and property reponsibility - st Jul 29, 2009


our building has a storage area and the house rules say the coop is not responsible for items. HOWEVER, recently, they put a lock on the door accessing this area. I believe that the fact the coop now has placed a lock there - that this may change who is responsible for any vandelism /damages to the items despite the house rules.

anyone?

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Few questions:

Do you rent out the storage space?

Are there lockers that are locked, or just a central room where everyone stores their belongings with one central door that is now locked?

Do you have an agreement or a license to place your items there?

Who has access to the key for the lock? Just the employees, or all people with storage space?

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the strorage space contains loose items mainly air conditioners. it also has individual lockers rented out with individual keys to them (owned by the renters of the lockers)

the key to the entire area is avialable to residents who must sign for it each time and also the staff who does not have to sign for it.

the items in question are air conditioners.

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These are interesting questinos. We have one room, alternatively referred to as the recycle room or package room. It's also where bikes are stored and the supt goes through to get to his workshop. There's a lock on the door but much of the time it's left wide open with a door stop. Everyone living in the building has a key, as well as people who have moved out and took their key.

Delivered packages and discarded items are all left on the same table.

We depend on good will and good luck and it works most of the time!

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I cant connect via the link since I have yahoo.

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As requested- mblevine@ebmg.com

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THANKS

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NYISO Curtailment Today - Steve-Inwood Jul 28, 2009


are these announcements common?

"NYISO has issued a notice that they WILL be having a one hour mandatory event call (reduction of electricity) per ECS' Demand Response Program for TODAY follows...

DAY: TUESDAY DATE: JULY 28 TIME: 2:00 PM - 3:00 PM (1 Hour)"


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Parking list - west cty board member Jul 27, 2009


Our coop has been using the closing date to establish the parking list order. There are shareholders that want to change from an indoor to an outdoor and vice-versa. How have others handled such a situation and how does one keep a list where we have to painstakingly have to cross reference who wants what?

PS a board member upon hearing that an indoor space became available, wants the space. Advise!

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Simple, board members are first and foremost shareholders, thus no special treatment e.g.: one can’t go to the head of the line. Butt out!!

Keep each of the lists in date of application sequence. Yes one for each parking area, e.g.; indoor upper, indoor lower, outdoor front, outdoor back, etc.

If a space becomes available in the indoor upper area, offer it to the shareholder on the top of list. If the shareholder declines, offer the space to the next shareholder, and so forth. The shareholder that declines goes to the end of the list declined with a new date, the date of offer and decline whichever is later.

Same goes for all the other spaces.

In this case a shareholder can be on all four lists. Having accepted any slot in one area, the resident remains on the other lists, untouched.

If one accepts an indoor upper space one can be still listed on the other lists. If the shareholder’s name is the next selected on any otherlist, the shareholder can either accept or decline (e.g.: go to the bottom of the list).

Even if the shareholder accepts a spot, e.g.: upper indoor, the shareholder can still go on the same list (bottom of course) in hopes of a better location at a future time.

Date of purchase has no meaning; only the date of application for one or more lists.

And, most importantly, a board member may never see the list, nor can the building manager reveal the contents of the list. Yes, the building manager must be trustworthy.

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The date of closing should have nothing to do with the garage list. In our building it works on a first come first serve basis. You send a request to the managing agent and they put you on the list. When a spot becomes available the agent calls the next shareholder on the list. it doesn't make a difference if you have an indoor and outdoor if you wan tan inside spot you go on the list when you request. if no shareholder wants the spot than we can give it to outsiders.
The best is if you have your managing agent take care of the list so you don't have to get involved in any scuffle between the shareholders

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Using the closing date is the only way to ensure the accuracy of the list and a fair process; otherwise you are always dealing with the human error factor.

The suggestion of multiple lists is clumsy and I believe is a waste of time for your managing agent. We maintain a single list and publish it on a regular basis. Shareholders are added to the list on request, using their closing date as the date of record. When a space becomes available, they have a period of time in which to accept or reject it. We will try to accommodate justifiable special requests, such as those for handicap access, but otherwise it's strictly a take it or leave it offer. Bottom line - keep it clean and keep it simple.

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Our coop has 2 lists: the first is to get into the garage, according to the date a person asks to be listed; and the other for people already inside who want to switch parking places when one opens up. The latter has recently caused a fuss because an "insider" felt she should have first dibs to the space because she parked inside longer than the other person who asked for it (but who asked for it weeks earlier). Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Also, does anyone have experience with shareholders who have left their name on the list, but have moved & kept their apartments? Some here firmly believe they should be offered the spot when their name comes up even if they return once a year. (Our waiting list averages 10 years). The rationale is that the shareholder might move back (and that does happen). We now have 3 people who have moved and have been offered a spot & turned it down, but their names stay at the top of the list.

I'd appreciate your input.

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That's exactly why we only maintain one list. As I mentioned, we will try to accommodate extenuating circumstances but we will not shuffle people around every time a spot becomes available. That's also why we use the closing date as the date of record for the first request to remove any doubt as to who was first.

Another requirement is residency. Shareholders can live anywhere they want in the interim, but once their name rises to the top of the list, they must show proof of residency as part of the parking agreement by submitting a copy of Page 1 of their NYS tax returns with our address as primary residence. Also, their car must be registered in NYS with our address as the address of record.

Finally, if a shareholder is offered a spot and turns it down, their name comes off the list. If they wish to re-apply after refusing the offered spot, the date of record becomes the current date.

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So that I understand and believe that we are following based on closing date... if a sh currently has an outdoor space and would like an indoor garage, it would be offer to the sh (when their names comes up on the list) but AFTER we have proceeded down the list to the next waiting named sh and their decision th take the apce indoor or out. They problem that we have is that when we have to go back up the list, who really knows to ask if one want an alternate space rather that simply moving down the list till it is exhausted. Comments!

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You can have a fair system whether you maintain one list or multiple lists. It's something that needs to be tailored to your building. How much work are you willing to put into designing and managing your queueing system? Do you have enough disparity of resources to make multiple lists worthwhile?

For indoor vs. outdoor spaces, two lists seems like a good idea. A resident who wants a space can -- and probably will -- be on both lists. When a space becomes available, the person on top of the relevant list will be asked whether they want the space, and whether they want to remain on the other list. It doesn't matter whether they already have a parking space: if they do, they have the option of switching to the newly available space. If they decline the space, they are removed from that particular list, though they may choose to try again from the end of the line. Their queue position on the other list is unaffected.

There's also the issue that people in general are lousy at math, much less queueing theory. (I've gotten into arguments with people who honestly believe that the provably inferior "One line per cash register" algorithm is preferable to a single queue for the next available server.) You need to ensure that your system is easily understood and *perceived* as fair. If it's too complicated, people are going to suspect unfairness even where none exists.

Finally, I don't agree with using closing date to determine queue position. Suppose Mr. A moved in ten years ago and never wanted a parking space. Mr. B moved in nine years ago and *always* wanted one. One day, Mr. A has a change of heart and suddenly vaults ahead of Mr. B, who has been waiting patiently for almost a decade. How is this fair?

I don't buy the argument that closing date is the only reliable way to validate ordering. At the time the request is made, have the managing agent mail back a formal reply on letterhead stationery, noting the date and time that the person was added to the queue. A resident can use this receipt to establish priority, if necessary. Publishing the waiting list(s) on a regular basis would also help: people will know their relative position, and disputes are less likely to occur later. If someone sees that they are missing or misplaced, they can straighten things out long before they get to the top of the list.

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I agree with CDT about not using the closing date as a criteria for a spot on the parking list. When a person wants to get on the parking list, they notify the property manager in writing. We distribute and post the rules so everyone is aware of them and we also post the list so people can easily see where their names are.

However, shareholders are asked over & over if they want to get in. They just stay up there at the top of the list even when they don't use this as their primary residence. One non-resident without a car was even allowed to stay at the top of the list. !?!?!

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Thank you very much, Board Prez, for your reply. The residency requirement is a major matter, and your other response about turning down a spot is particularly apropos. The other criteria I'd like to see on the registration is that that person owns the vehicle.
We try to accommodate all the shareholders, but it can get out of hand, too. I'd like to see set of rules applied to everyone.
Thanks again.

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Thank you to "Board Prez" as well

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So ya think the IRS 1040’s & other Fed documents are phoney - Harvey Jul 25, 2009


Sometimes the two year tax forms submitted by an applicant just don’t smell right. Yes, the forms are signed. But, in this day and age, with a tax preparation software package, one can easily manufacture a “nice” tax package in a matter of minutes.

Sure, the 1040 can be signed!

Who’s the wiser?

Just ask each applicant (yes, each to avoid a discrimination suit) to submit a completed IRS Form 8821, Tax Information Authorization naming the co-op corporation as legal “Appointee”

Visit:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8821.pdf

Neat, huh?

We use this form for every package and surprise, surprise no more smelly applications.

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Co-op "affairs" - BP Jul 24, 2009


A friend (a coop board VP) called last night with an odd question, and I didn't know what to tell her. It's a bit of a long story.

Her married super is having an affair with a married SH ("Mary"). A few months ago, Mary told my friend in confidence it's been going on over a year, they're very happy, etc. My friend told her fellow board members who all just wanted to stay out of it.

A SH e-mailed the prop mgr that she saw Mary and the super exit a restaurant last weekend holding hands, kissing, etc., said this is very inappropriate, and wants to know what the coop is going to do about it.

The surprised prop mgr asked the super who denied it. My friend's board hasn't told the prop mgr they knew of this. He told the SH the coop knows nothing and the super denies it but the SH has told everyone what she saw last weekend. A few SHs even asked Mary who denied it but it's caused a building uproar (125 units). Yesterday, Mary asked my friend if she revealed what she said in confidence and my friend swore she told no one.

Mary's husband and the super's wife are very upset over this, and Mary and the super both deny to their spouses that it's true.

The prop mgr still doesn't know my friend and her board knew about this, so they're in a very awkward position now.

My friend asked me what to do but I wouldn't advise her. I think she and her board should just let rumblings die down. Btw, she said the restaurant where the SH saw Mary and the super is nowhere near their coop. As long as the super is doing his job and not causing bldg problems, this is his (and Mary's) personal business.

Anyone have any comments/suggestions? I've been on my board a long time but I've never run up against a situation like this.

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I don't know about the board, but I'd say Mary's friend is a vile, gossipy busybody and no friend at all. Friends don't tell other friend's secrets.

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Anon - I understand why you think my friend is a "vile, gossipy busybody" but she isn't. I've known her for years. She said when Mary told her about the affair with the super, she told her board because she didn't know where this might go. At the time (about 6 mos ago), they dropped it and didn't tell anyone else about it, and still haven't.

If the SH who saw Mary and the super in a compromising situation at a restaurant last weekend didn't tell everyone in the bldg about it, this wouldn't be an issue. If anyone is a loose-lipped gossip, I think it's this SH, not my friend.

I don't know anyone in that coop except my friend. I just wondered if any posters here had any ideas on what the board there should do if this doesn't die down on its own.

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Stop talking about it -- and it will go away!

Sounds like two people are trying to stir a tempest in a teapot... and should mind thier own business..

Legally, the Super or SH have done nothing wrong or to harm the Building. AliceT

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The Board's job is to abide by the responsibilities dictated by the governing documents. I know there is nothing in ours about this, and I doubt it exists in the docs of any other condo or coop. Stay out of it. And ask you friend to leave you out of it. Board business is time-consuming enough.

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Unless moral turpitude is involved, stand down, back away and drop it.

The behavior defined may go against one’s mores, but that’s not the value that tips the scales against the superintendent.

Whoever started any of this dialogue at the co-op needs to be smacked for disturbing the peace.

Tell the rumor (nay story) mongers to go about their lives; there’s more important agenda in the world.

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I agree - the board has enough to do without getting involved in personal matters. Your concern with the super is that he does his job well. Don't give life to the gossip.

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