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Elevator Modernazation - MWood Jan 29, 2010


Our board is in the process of looking for a consultant and overhaul our elevators. can you tell me what price range to expect for two elevators in a 100 unit building? Thanks

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I've had great success with Anthony Giordano at Vertical Systems Analysis.

His e-mail is AAAELEV@aol.com.

They typically charge in a few phases, depending on what type of work you need and what you want them to oversee...can't hurt to email for a proposal, they'll usually get one out same week.

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I have used them with a satisfactory level of success also...

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We're in the middle of the same project. Our building is nine stories and we're modernizing a single elevator that currently has a 1915 winding drum and a 1951 control system (automatic, not manual). We're replacing all the mechanics from top to bottom, although we're retaining the wood-paneled cab and we're keeping the machine room in the basement. We put the work out for bids, and the majority were right around $175,000. This does not include engineering and filing fees, and we were told that a cab replacement would have added another $10,000 or so.

For an elevator engineer, I would highly recommend Emilio Diez of VDA at 212-868-9090. His analysis and specifications were very detailed and precise, and he has provided us with excellent advice.

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$250,000-$350,000.
I'm asuming that you're not changing the cabs themselves.

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Just wanted to expand on Gerry's quote of $250,000 to $350,000 for two elevators, which sounds about right --

There isn't one single form of "modernization." In particular, if you keep the old winding drum instead of upgrading to a traction machine, you'll save about $45,000 per elevator. This isn't generally advised, although sometimes you have no choice if the machine room is very small, or if upgrading would require a significant loss of space in the cab. Get the full details and recommendations from your engineer.

Also, it's worth noting that elevator companies are eager for work right now and the bids we received for our own elevator were quite aggressive. The multiple bids around $175,000 (including winding drum replacement) were considerably lower than we would have expected 18 months earlier.

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SOMEONE - sponsor?! Stuy Townand coops - ally Jan 26, 2010


Does the stuy town ruling mean that coops should no longer let sponsors rent market rate apartments????? (we have a sponsor that keeps doing this over and over)

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If you live in a coop that gets the J51 and your sponsor has been de-regulating his apt. as they become available it seems that this has been illegal and all of them must be re-regulated and the rents reduced. Can anyone confirm this?

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Who is affected by the decision?
The decision serves as a reminder to tenants to check to see whether their buildings receive J-51 benefits, even if the case did not specifically deal with the exact category of building they live in. Every apartment in buildings that now receive J-51 benefits, except co-ops and condos, must be governed by some form of rent regulation. )To find out whether a building received or receives J-51 benefits, go to www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/property/property_tax_reduc_j_51.shtml. Searching will require that you know the block and lot number for your building, which you can get at http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/Coverpage.dll/index.)


Any tenant that moved into a building as a supposedly deregulated tenant might instead be rent-stabilized, if either (a) the building is now getting J-51 benefits, or (b) the building used to get J-51 benefits during the tenancy of the current tenant, and the tenant did not get notice, in the first lease and in every renewal, saying that the apartment can be deregulated when the benefits expire.
In addition, a stabilized tenant might be exempt from high-income deregulation under similar circumstances.

Once a tenant is rent-stabilized because he or she is in one of these categories, the apartment remains stabilized even if the building goes condo or co-op. If the building went co-op or condo before the tenant takes occupancy, though, the tenant cannot be rent-stabilized.
Tenants who would be in these categories but who have left their supposedly deregulated apartments are affected too: If they left less than four years ago, they can sue for overcharges. It is doubtful, however, that they could ever regain possession.

Only tenants who were in occupancy at the time when J-51 benefits were received can benefit. If the building got benefits but they expired before the current tenant took occupancy, it is doubtful that the current tenant can benefit (at least not without a lot of legal wrangling).

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Service Agreements - DavidG Jan 25, 2010


Hi Everyone,

We are currently reviewing our service agreements, and wanted to generate some feedback/comments as analyze how we can improve our maintenance and keep our overall costs under control.

Our building currently has two service agreements in place:
1) Elevator – We use a company that services us monthly (has been our service for 5 years plus), but we always seem to fail inspection or are issued DOB violations regularly. Does anyone else have this problem? Should our building staff be working closer to these “experts”? Any suggestions?
2) Our garage door company – the cost is minimal, but they never show up unless we call them, no preventive measures. Good news the board ensures the managing agent calls them semi annually for preventive measures. No changes are expected for now.
3) We don’t have a boiler/burner service agreement, and have had two many hands in the pot over the years, which makes managing our HVAC system harder and expensive. What do other buildings do? Our Fuel Company has offered up a service level agreement, but should we have an independent company? We have experienced a large amount of heat and hot water outages over the least year, im not sure our super is trained up or has a strong grasp of the requirements… Any thoughts of companies or direction to take?

Are there any other service agreements that we should consider for our utilities?

I appreciate your comments and thoughts.

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2010 real estate tax abatement? - RFG Jan 22, 2010


Hi can anyone tell me when the managing agent should receive a notice from New York City department of Finance confirming the 2010 real estate tax abatement?

The board would like to review for accuracy (in the past, purchasing shareholders that bought shares from the sponsor didn’t receive timely abatements due to recording issues with New York City). The board is also considering assessing a similar amount of money for capital improvements.

As the managing agent and sponsor are the same company, I want to better understand when we may expect this information.

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I believe that the City gives the figures to the management company in November - so that would be Nov 2009 for this year - so that the abatement can be distributed from Jan-June

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I enjoy reading, posting, and responding on Board Talk. It's a valuable resource. I recently posted a situation in my co-op and someone responded that I should email him/her directly. Though I recognize some of the folks posting on "Board Talk" as "regulars", and didn't recognize this person's name, I emailed any way. I took the chance, did it of my own free will, but never heard back.

It was probably coincidental, but 2 days later, amazon.com sent an alert to me that my account had been compromised; I've had to cancel my banking card and change banking information.

All I can say is, caveat emptor.

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Rest assured, I'm not phishing, just had a question (also known as Mr. Manager in the blog section)

Good tip though.

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Mark, a/k/a Mr. Manager, It was not you at all. The person didn't use a name, as you do, but initials. I should have known better, and am just fortunate that the vendor caught it before more damage was done. I appreciate your helpfulness on Board Talk.

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I believe that this was only coincidential as if someone gave/posts you their e-mail to respond to are they not jeopardising their information etc,? by trying to help a fellow subscriber out. I believe you have over reacted here. I would hate to see others not use this site because of your experience with your credit information.

Bob

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Thank you for your input. My experience was, as I wrote, probably a coincidence. I also started my post by saying that this Board is a valuable resource.

One poster asked me to send a private email, I did, & never heard back. It was my mistake.

I hope no one stops posting to this Board because of my mistake. This Board is much bigger and more valuable than that, but it's not perfect because none of us knows who is writing in. It's not composed of private emails -- all the posts are out in the open, and most posters don't show their email addresses (though it's an option).

Over-reacting? I'm sure that at least 99% of the posters here are on the level. But I take it seriously when my email address is used for purchases I didn't make and a vendor alerts me that my account has compromised. I don't know how identity theft is accomplished, but it starts somewhere. I didn't say that it started with a post to this Board. I suggested that it could have started with a private email that I sent.

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Thanks for the head's up. I for one appreciate anecdotal evidence. : )

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I am curious when you state the managing agent and sponsor are the same. How many units are there in your apartment block. We are looking for new managing agent and our sponsor has a managing company. We at this present time turned them down due to the fear of a conflict of interest.

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There are 61 units in our building, the sponsor that converted the co-op back in 1982 also set its self up as our managing agent. They don’t charge much; in fact the rate has not changed since 1982 which does not make much sense to me, but ahh the service leaves a lot to be desired.
I agree there is a conflict of interest (and the co-op suffers, lack of policies, lack of contacts for repairs, lack of active involvment) the board since my joining has taken on many of these functions, or so many accomplishments would never have occurred. Despite purchasing shareholders controlling the board, there is no appetite to remove them as managing agent (or having a major battle with the sponsor over it) – even though most agree it’s not in the co-ops best interest. It makes my life much harder because the sponsor still controls 51% of the shares, and has ties to several other resident owners giving them approx 65% voting power (via proxy) these people are all original purchasers and are close friends of the sponsor. I give them credit that they pay on time, never late, but still frustrated. The good news – they are renovating apartments for sale… Let’s see what happens.
This leads to the conflict of interest and reason for my posting: As a new owner in this building and board member, I recognize that major work is required. The building has never had an assessment, but the time has come to move forward, and one suggested way is to assess a similar amount to the abatement, while shareholders would not pay out of pocket the sponsor would. So we don’t miss the boat, I requested in writing when the managing agent had the information, they should provide it to the board, but was greeted with silence. My thinking was if common practice was to have the letter sent during a certain month I would follow up.
Sorry for the long winded email, my apartment is wonderful, the building location and apartments are really great, and it could be so much. I hope as new shareholders purchase in, the will of all becomes stronger and allows us to drive forward.

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Thank you so much for your response, it was exactly what I was thinking would happen.Sponsors always do everything on the cheap. It is the rents that is their only concern. Get as much as possible and give nothing back. Thank yo.

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MAS, can you e-mail me? mblevine@ebmg.com.

Thanks.

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Next issue of Habitat - Webmaster Jan 20, 2010


The February preview video is now up!

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Bird droppings and Board of Health - boardone Jan 15, 2010


Anyone know when it is necessary to call in Board of Health about massive bird droppings on window ledges, fire escapes etc? SOme SH are worried about bird flu and other disease carried by droppings.

Whose responsibility is it to clean off window ledges, escapes, etc?

Is it landlord legally responsible for get rid to the condition. How?

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The owner (landlord) is responsible in a tenant building or a condo, the Cooperative is responsible in most coops, the Proprietary Lease would have to verify this.

nevertheless, it is unsanitary and should be cleaned.
There are many companies and handymen that can do this.

~AR

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It has been brought to the attention of Management (it's a converted rent-stab that went co-op but landlord owns many units still). Super said to me,that it is happening along the whole length of the building-- wherever there are fire escapes. He said tenants and SH have to clean it up themselves--ot he would have to do it everyday. He is correct-the droppings are massive. This is a new situation. I think the cause could be a renovated shopping center that abuts the property, which has attracted 4 new food tenants. Taco Bell, Panera, Five Brothers Burgers--all put them garbage in dumpsters and I noticed they have bags piled up to the sky. Is it the Board's or Management's responsibility to notify the prop manager of shopping center? In the meantime, what's the next step for SH/Tenant's?

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A couple of years ago I called the Board of Health regarding the pigeon droppings and nest on my terrace. They said they could not do anything. Unfortunately, they cannot kill the pigeons. However, if someone is feeding the birds they could fine them.

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You can call reliable companies, like Bird Doctor or Arrow exterminating. They will come to inspect and give you a clean-up estimate. And they will also give you pigeon prevention advice - spikes, wires, etc. Most of the time the pigeons are nesting under a/c units or resting on ledges. This can be costly, unless your super is willing to do the work .

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Superintendents Position - Mike MacGowan, Resident Manager Jan 15, 2010


Anyone who knows of any Superintendents who are in need of a position, I know of a building that they are interviewing next Thursday, January 21st. If anyone is interested please send their resume to (212) 702-0193 Fax or email to Mikemac72@aol.com

The building details are:

The building is a Rental LEED certified silver building 185 units new construction, Superintendent must be computer literate and receives a 2-bedroom apartment with parking space.

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This Management Company is going to have a tough time finding a reputable super or one that will stay here for some time. The location is HORRIBLE!!!!1

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Chargebacks? - anon Jan 14, 2010


I just received an invoice from the coop's managment company for what they call a chargeback bill from a locksmith. About 6 months ago, I did lose my passkey to the bldg and had the bldgs's assigned locksmith deactivate the lost passkey and issue a new one. Can they do this?

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Since the charge was as a result of your negligence in losing the keys, I don't see why this would even be considered an issue when you received the bill for it. There is a cost for the passkey and for the person's time who was handling it for the Coop, so it seems right that the building won't eat that cost. And if they did, they set an expensive precedent for when everyone else loses their keys.

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Yes.

Who did you think was going to pay for it?

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Yes, they can, yes, they will, and yes, they should.

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Worst board in the world? - JB Jan 13, 2010


Did anyone else read that new piece up on the website today? Did you read the oart about unelected "associate members" a.k.a. cronies? Holy crap.

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what are you talking about?

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http://www.habitatmag.com/publication_content/web_exclusives/co_op_op_ed_why_boards_have_bad_reputations_and_what_to_do_about_it

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Sounds like our building use to be. Two Board members were always too busy except give orders to the others and the President like a voice through the clouds (one coming from Florida in this instance). Totally inattentive and real big mouths threatening legal action just to try get their way all the time (unsuccessfully I might add). Thank the Heavens they have been voted off the Board unanomously. Having others interested in the building and helping out is a good thing if they are helping out and in the article the suspicious ex-president sounds like a whiney control freek. It's probably best that her term was put to rest as the "others" weren't motivated to work with her.

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F/T Non Union Super Needed - West Cty board member Jan 11, 2010


Our ads have not produced enough responses to choose a qualified super. Any suggestions to increase our hit rate?

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You might want to be more detailed as to what your offering. Also as to what the duties of the newly hired super are or what he/she should expect. I worked as a Non-union super for many years with no problems. Now that I am union, there is a difference. Not so much as to having the union behind you because in all honesty with or without the union if they want you out your leaving. But being part of the union has a lot of perks such as the great medical, pension and of course the educational courses that are for FREE. So if your a non-union building there's a lot that needs to be considered. You also don't want to hire someone who's going to work for a short period just to get the experience under his/her belt or to update their resume and move on to bigger and better things. In my experience and my opinion you should want to hire someone who's going or to make a long term commitment to the building. After all this person will be living with you having direct access to the residents apartments. So I personally wouldn't want a high turn over rate. Good Luck!!

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Where are you placing your ads?

Is your managing agent involved in the process? Ours found us dozens of applicants, a handful of which we considered in a second round of interview, and three of which we seriously considered. (But then... ours is a union building.)

There's a website just for supers - have you advertised there?

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Please let me know what kind of Superintendent you are in need of and I will ask our members, I am the Past-President of the Manhattan Resident Managers Club, Inc. and there is always someone looking for a position or knows of someone who is.

Good Luck

Mike

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Hello,

If you are having a difficult time locating a qualified candidate. Feel free to e-mail I do have someone who is reputable and hardworking.


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I Placed in the NY Times Thurs-Sun and had over 100 in 1 week..

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There are many super/RM associations in Manhattan that have a pool of highly skilled people.
NY Building Managers Association (NYBM)
Emerald Guild Society
Superintendents club of NY
Hibernia Providence Society
The above are just a sample. You can also go on to find the appropriate web sites.

Happy hunting,
Bob

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Our superintendent has quit, and we need to replace him with a Local 32BJ member. Our management company is sitting on their hands while the Board spreads out looking. You mentioned the NY Building Managers Association. May I ask their help as a Board member? Thank you for any leads.
Another question: we have a few resumes but I'd like to ask applicants to complete an application form which would have the same questions of all applicants, they'd need to date and sign it also. Is that common practice? Thanks again.

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Can you e-mail me at jawitmolh@aol.com

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Learn all the basics of NYC co-op and condo management, with straight talk from heavy hitters in the field of co-op or condo apartments

Professionals in some of the key fields of co-op and condo board governance and building management answer common questions in their areas of expertise

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